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Post by Michael J. Dowswell » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:57 am

Thanks Steve, and thank you Amiela

...the thing is that Craste is influenced / has to be influenced by something...even though I cant say exactly what at this time...

I can only speak for myself, of which I would say…Metropolis (1927) Things to Come (1936) Nosferatu (1922) Citizen Kane (1941) all of Stanley Kubricks films and Craste himself.

I’ve also been told that I’d like the Russian films Stalker (1979) and Solyris (1972) by Andrei Tarkovsky... somebody mentioned those to me after watching one of my films. I’ve had a look at a few photos from Stalker and they are very heavy on the urban decay, so its quite possible...

When it comes to the actual peg leg cylindrical characters / glowing eyes, that’s where I’m lost, because I don’t know if there’s anything like that been done before Craste...and it does for me...feel...that I have taken it and I am struggling with the idea of this going out there...I do feel that its wrong...and have felt this way for some time now...If somebody can convince me (well Steve tries to) that is indeed not too close (can we get Craste in here?) then by all means write away...well we have in this thread already a little bit…

The question is...do I throw my feelings aside and replace them with a statement to myself that says that its ok to be heavily inspired by designs of other artists…and keep going…

The thing is...if it was a Craste rip off, how many of the people you know would actually turn round and tell you that to you?

One of my long time online friends has just told me its too close to Craste this minute...

As for making money out of art or films, well I gave up on that one a long time ago. I'm even now even willing to give my films to the small cinemas here in Scotland for free, if they want to give me somthing then thats great, but I'm happy with the fact that it'll get shown to iether 5 people or 50 people...I just want people to see the films that i make now...if they enjoy it then thats a bonus.
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Post by matthewart » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:17 am

Wowzers!

I love this. The sense of scale. The little guys/robots? I'm sucked right in wondering who they are.
Love the greys.
It intrigues me like the great Chris Van Allsberg illustrations.

What if you left off the railing.... to increase the sense of danger... :)

Love the flat! in a world where everything 3d is bump mapped ultra detailed... why not have a simple flat grey world. It will stand out. Maybe the 3d snobs will complain but when don't they?

As for the comparison talk... I don't really see the problem. Awsome as Craste is I could compare that film to several brothers quay stop motions. I mean where do comparisons stop???
boiling something down to ... oh this is just like this ... isn't true.
Like saying Bone is like Pogo. If it is ... so what.
If this is like Craste... well maybe the world could use a little more of that wonder and magic.

Just my two bits.

I can't wait to see more. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by willmj » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:00 am

loved the clip... bring on the story.... :D

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Post by Michael J. Dowswell » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:25 pm

Thanks matthewart and willmj

I think thats very true. I mean lets take say, Nick Park, his stuff is quite clearly very strongly inspired by Thunderbirds at times, and he doesn't seem to get into trouble there on it...and as willmj said before, as long as the stories arn't the same...which it wont be, its going to be far more science fiction than Craste...I think that it will become its own animal if I give a chance...I hope...that being said, Nick Parks charaacters are very orriginal and mine do bare striking resemblance (like Amiela said) to some of the Craste designs...movement as well, is simalar...

...one of my fears at this time I think is that people will label me as that guy who ripped off Craste. I'm somebody whos now been making films for ten years...this seventh animation I just really wanted to push out the boat with character animation...but simple character animation...I mean you think about these things for litrally years..."how the hell can I tell a really good story with full on character animation and get this thing finished on my own in a time that wont kill me?"

Just thinking here, I think Craste is possibly inspired by Nick Park and David Lynch as well as a whole load of other things.
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Post by Michael J. Dowswell » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:31 pm

And can somebody please tell me...what the HECK happened to Brian Taylor???
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Post by Og » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:46 pm

You need to stop worrying about this right now. If you're not intentionally ripping off Craste, then that's it. It's obvious you are influenced by Marc. Fine. It's obvious you both have ingested some of the same stimuli. Also fine. But ripping him off? You know what the truth is. If anyone else thinks otherwise, you'll just have to tolerate his opinion, however wrong it might be.

Now, let me redirect your efforts:

Story.

Story.

Story.

Are we clear?

As for Brian Taylor - the man who "ripped off Tim Burton", by which they probably mean Henry Zelick - Brian's in the midst of getting Rustboy made into a feature film. He's gotten himself involved with some big Hollywood heavy hitters, but of course things can drag out there, and drag they are. Meanwhile, he's more or less thrown himself into his bizarre design-and-toy business, CandyKiller.com.

Check it out.

Oh, and one other thing: Story.
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Post by Michael J. Dowswell » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:03 pm

The whole Brian Taylor thing is very odd...last entry on the diary...26th January 2006.

I have visited CandyKiller.com in the past, and yes that does look like its been updated...but why no statement for over two years on what’s going on with Rustboy and I think what they’re talking about is Edward Scissor Hands Steve. Taylor is very influenced by that picture.

I’ve not been working on the animation recently, did a whole bunch of Indiana Jones fan art instead to relax a bit. But I want to get back to it, and I do want to thrash out more story yes...hehe. I do have a story outline in my head but I want more detail added to it.

*opens up notepad*
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Post by Michael J. Dowswell » Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:59 am

Hey everybody,

I'ts been a while since posted here, the project is still very much being made, there’s quite a few sets been built now, its proving to be quite a large project. its definitely a experimental project, and its definitely me trying to go in a different direction to my past shorts. Its exciting, I genuinely have started to get excited about it again.

This is a shot from a sequence where the main character walks down a tunnel.

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Post by campy22 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:48 am

(^_^) That;s a cool image!

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Post by Og » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:09 am

These sets are getting much more interesting, Michael

Roll on!
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Post by Michael J. Dowswell » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:16 pm

Thanks guys!

It's having a bit of a set back at the moment, with a huge exterior set I did, I've suddenly realised it could be much better, or at least I hope that it could be much better / is going to be much better. It had sadly all rendered out too with Cinema 4Ds glorious area shadows (which take ages to render), a sequence of four shots had been rendered out like this, but hey, these things happen. I’m going to get to work on re doing it now.
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Post by Reagan » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:31 pm

I don't have time to read everyone's comments, but man I'm loving this. AMAZING sense of scale. You can totally hear the echo of every little tiny sound, and the gentle stirring of air in vast places.

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Post by Michael J. Dowswell » Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:31 am

Thanks Reagan!...glad you loved it, and understood / appreciated what I'm going for.

Was a odd day there, had a extreamly positive comment (your one) and a extreamly negative letter (from another forum).



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Post by Honolulu Dogfight » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:06 am

all of this is beautiful.
i cannot wait to watch it.
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Post by Michael J. Dowswell » Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:31 am

Thanks George!

Glad you like the stills.
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